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Re:DCC Meeting on 8/19/09 14 Years, 8 Months ago Karma: 0  
It would seem reasonable that as residents we should be getting a report from the HOA/BOD on each meeting that lists items discussed, summary of resident comments, items acted upon, and items they said they would take action on later.

They send out so many other emails - some more useful in community information than others - why can't they send this out?

It would seem a simple and inexpensive way for residents to get a sense of the BOD's take on the meeting and hold them more accountable by documenting it for the broad community that couldn't be at the meeting.
 
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Re:DCC Meeting on 8/19/09 14 Years, 8 Months ago Karma: 4  
Lance, i think you answered your own question when you said it would "hold them more accountable by documenting it for the broad community"!
 
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Re:DCC Meeting on 8/19/09 14 Years, 8 Months ago Karma: -1  
Do you really want some security Nazi asking everyone for their HOA cards or visitor passes? I sure don't.

The problem isn't the people visiting who don't live in Daybreak. The problem is people who aren't cleaning up after themselves. The offenders in that case are BOTH Daybreak residents AND visitors.

I don't care who uses the lake as long as they are polite and clean up.
 
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Re:DCC Meeting on 8/19/09 14 Years, 8 Months ago Karma: 12  
Lance, I don't remember if you were at the BOD meeting but it was shortly after Derek took over at the HOA. We were told the BOD wanted to communicate better. In an effort to do that they would note all resident questions from the meeting and post the answers on the web site within a reasonable time. During that meeting, Tina (I think), was assigned to scribe and questions were put on a large pad for all to see. We never saw the answers to those questions on the web site or individually. The same procedure was used at the next meeting, ditto on results. The BOD was asked why they hadn't responded, no answer and the procedure was dropped. Minutes for each BOD meeting are posted on the web site, but they are slow in coming and have very little detail. As per our CC&R's that's all the BOD is responsible to provide. Until the single family homes reach the required level of saturation, our lives are controlled by Kennecott.

Laura, as for security at the lake and skate park, talk to your neighbors that live next to them. I believe they can plead a very effective case that it is necessary.

As for cost of the security, I disagree with the HOA footing the bill for the entire cost. I do believe there should be discussion about homeowners sharing in part of the expense as Kennecott has opened it for our use. It is entirely their property and we are guests while on it.

It was great to see so many people at the meeting. Chances are, they won't be there next time. It will be winter and the lake and skate park traffic will almost be gone. Out of site, out of mind. Even though Kennecott rules our single family homes for a very long time going forward, our voices make a difference!!! Start attending the meetings on a regular basis. In 4 years residents have gone from not being allowed to speak at the BOD meeting to having a (non-voting) representative on the board and the ability to have an open, albeit long and loud, open forum.

If you really care about Daybreak attend the meetings. It's only 2 hours every three months.
 
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Re:DCC Meeting on 8/19/09 14 Years, 8 Months ago Karma: 2  
Many of our visitors that are disrespectful of the park and beach are not daybreak residents- most are visitors from Draper, Sandy, Cottonwood heights, West Jordan- even all the way from Ogden to use the "free beach in South Jordan" ( not my word, theirs). Caravans of family reunions and youth conferences are not all residents, yet they are the ones setting up large tents, staking poles in the grass, firing up propane grills that could pose fair hazards, and letting their children swim unsupervised without proper swim diapers. They are the ones clogging up the streets so that emergency vehicles can't drive through, much less residents.

It is true, if everyone was considerate and respectful of the park and beach, we wouldn't have some of these problems. However, much of that disrespect comes from those that don't have an emotional investment of having to look out your window and see the chaos and filth that can be there. These people simply drive home and assume someone else will pick up after them, their children and their dogs. This area is simply not designed to entertain all of SL valley, but that is what it is turning into. Talk to the people that are there on any given day. Very few residents can be found, thanks to the overcrowding.

I do not see any other parks in Daybreak that are abused or disrespected by patrons like Eastlake Park is. If this was a resident issue, more parks in Daybreak would have these issues as well. I remember when the park opened- for the first few weeks it was quite crowded with residents- but seemed realistic and appropriate - yes there were cars, but there were also lot of wagon and bikes in the grass from residents. But once word spread about the free beach, we ended up with the street lined up with cars, much worse than when the park first opened.

As stated at the meeting, this park was not intended to be a public beach and park, but as an amenity for residents. The beach area at North shore is designed for the public, which is pretty obvious simply by looking at the size and large, wide boardwalks and paths. No one is saying visitors cannot come, but if they continue to abuse this "free beach" there won't be much beach left, the park will be ruined and the residents will be the ones footing the bill for repairs. Larger groups should use North Shore- the beach is larger and there are safe, paved areas for grills etc ( if that is even allowed?). Parking is plentiful there as well.

If that means a security person at Eastlake park asking for ID's for a period of time to reduce outside crowding and ensure proper behavior, so be it. We have paid way to much money to get this park up and running, as well as maintenance to ensure it stays that way.
 
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Re:DCC Meeting on 8/19/09 14 Years, 8 Months ago Karma: 18  
There is a video on YouTube about the skate park across the street from the "free beach". A foul-mouthed punk describes it as a (expletive deleted)Loch Ness. In the comments which follow the video on YouTube, there are several requests for directions to the park from outside the area and detailed directions provided. The residents from that area attended the BOD meeting and made several excellent presentations with viable suggestions. This is a PRIVATE beach subject ot trespass laws if those in attendance do not live in Daybreak. The horror stories were plentiful. I'm sure that the BOD heard the message loud and clear and will take some action. Hopefully, that action will not include a "hold off and Winter will take care of the problem until we can get to it next Spring" component.
 
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